hello Mr Olivier Sirol i got the cd and i thank you very much for it. but i have a problem how i installed the software. 1: installed cygwin-b20-full.exe at c:\App\Cygwin from redist\window\ folder 2: installed X11r6-4 in c:\usr 3: did not install X-win411.exe becos of licence( please tell me how to get it) 4: installed alliance-xxx-cygwin-b20 at c:\usr\local\alliance 5: run cygwin-b20 from start menu of win desktop 6: create bin and tmp 7: copied sh.exe to \bin 8: edited config.sys and autoexec.bat 9: in bash prompt typed \......\alc_env.(c)sh i.e., both csh and sh I FOUND THE FOLLOWING ERROR /usr/local/alliance/share/etc/alc_env.csh: 1: syntax error word unexpecting")") please help me to install the software properly kiran kiran@dacafe.com _____________________________________________________________