>Yes, and there is a similar problem with grog. >Lynx is more renowned as a web browser than a Layout extractor. >Grog is more renowned as a groff component ( adocument formatting system) >than a generic ROM generator It appears that there is a similar problem with Alliance itself! Xilinx has a software called Alliance for designing chips. I talked with someone at Xilinx and told him your site, and apparently Alliance has nothing to do with Alliance. Even telling what country it's from is confusing, as there is an organization called Alliance Française... phma